Part 8 of the proposed Sabre Charter

[Anonymous]

HI, my views …
1. Part 8 should not be in the Charter – my logic: a charter should not have content that relates to the detail of measurement
2. Class rules pertaining to measurement of boats should not be based on whether the activity relates to the individuals income – it will always be disputed eg definition of income, tax etc.
3. Who can be a builder (FRP or timber) – should either be by builders who have passed some review/assessment/contractual agreement (eg Laser, Spiral classes) OR be open to any builder …. the Sabre class has in the past had the target of encouraging amateur builders (cost, interest in building etc). This underlying principle (amateur vs non-amateur) at a high level is an appropriate statement in a charter (the detail then in the class rules)
4. The concern regarding an individuals ability to develop a hull that meets the measurement rules but deviates from the “look” of a Sabre, aka development in the NS14 class some 20 years ago, needs to be addressed separately in the definition of class measurement, not in a charter statement
My thoughts,
Susan

[Anonymous]

Susan. Thanks for your input.
I agree that Part 8 of this charter should be left to measurement details but is probably appropriate as it is only for a limited but undefined time. It could easily become permanent if no other set of rules are voted on and passed. This point should be a major consideration when deciding your final vote.
The idea of who can be a builder being based on income is absurd. Consider my friend who builds boats for for a living. He is a boilermaker, never used fibreglass in his life and has rarely stepped foot on to a yacht but by definition of the rules he can build an FRP Sabre!
I agree that there needs to be control over the building of FRP Sabres but needs to be based more around design and construction rather than who can build. Licensing is something best left to 420s and Lasers.
I also agree with your point 4 but is dealing with another part of the proposed charter. I think it is wise to discuss each part seperately otherwise this discussion will become very convoluted.

[Anonymous]

Craig,
Part 8 proposes that a persons main paid occupation must be building boats for them to be able to make a FRP boat from a mould – so I do not think the boilermaker guy in your example can make one.
As Part 8 is stated, I guess a retired person, with no paid occupation COULD make FRP boats?

I disagree with any class rules being based on a persons income – paid or whatever source!
Part 8 should NOT be in the charter.

An alternate approach for amateur FRP builders would be (in the Class Rules, not a Charter):
a) specification of materials and requirement for a mould,
b) mould for FRP to be inspected by a State Measurer prior to use (ascertaining general compliance with intention of measurement rules for a one-design class within stated tolerances),
c) where a State Measurer would need to travel further than 80km (or other specified distance), the inspection may be executed using electronic visual media.

BUT – the underpinning question is … does the Sabre class want amateur builders?

Sue

[Anonymous]

As long as the correct controls are in place anything that could make a Sabre more affordable is going to be beneficial for the class.
Has anyone else got anything to say on this? The more people that get involved in this discussion the better.

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