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December 24, 2013 at 2:38 pm #7578
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InactiveI agree mostly with your post, but I can help with the weight of a timber boat, if you use paulownia timber you can build the wooden boat very much under weight. Mine was 3kgs under and it was glass both inside and out, but rememeber not to use too much glue as it adds up.
One of the advantages with paulownia is it does not soak up water.
I would be far more concerned with the new rule changes and the glass boat becoming any faster than they are now.
December 25, 2013 at 7:20 am #7579heymacaulay
KeymasterI agree with Wand as far as glass boats having lite ends but I suspect there would be a corresponding lack of stiffness which would cause the boat to soften quicker but for one championship what the heck.
I have a wooden boat built by a reputable class builder and paulownia was used to achieve literness but cracked and split in ALL high stress areas glassed or not which has required the deck being removed and the boat framing rebuild this time with syrian cedar. To my surprise the weight only increased by 0.85kgs. Yes I was careful with measurements and not using excessive glue and I didn’t have to glass to achieve strength. My boat is noticeably stiffer and quicker upwind.
It is hard to know which is better but I don’t want to sail a one series wonder. I would like to see a Rule requiring a 41kg minimum hull weight with allowable correctors to 0.5kg equally attached the top centre of the bow and top transom bar. This would not make it worthwhile to build a lite hull.
To stop glass builders resetting the weight to the centre of the boat appropriate Rules can be introduced.
Alan Wilson 1906
December 26, 2013 at 12:18 pm #7580Anonymous
InactiveThanks for both replies to my post. Seems I am out of touch about building light timber boats 😳 But that aside, the rule allowing up to three kilos to be placed on the thwart represents a serious undermining of one of the basic tenets of a one design class – and that is minimum weight.
I’ve often heard Sabre class reps go on proudly about how the class rules are preserved so that older boats are not knocked out of contention before they hit the water. But this amendment does exactly that. Prior to 2010, all boats were required to weigh a minimum of 41 kilos, with any unders being bolted to the transom post. After the passing of the amendment, boats may weigh just 38 kilos and have the remaining three kilos positioned such that the effective weight is but a fraction of that three kilos.
As a consequence, the class executive has done what they have always proclaimed they would not – and that is make older boats (older than just three years, currently) effectively uncompetitive. And that is both irresponsible and a shame.
HelterSkelter has the right idea. Stop the race to the bottom weight by providing rules that severely penalise light boats. That’s much smarter administration than bowing to pressure, probably from the glass boat builders, to ditch a fundamental one design rule and thereby initiate the dismantling of the Sabre as a one design class.
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